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[bluefalconed]

We would like to know your thoughts on who remains from the second clue.

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[forthehoard]

I don't know. I was pretty convinced about the team that went out, but I totally got that one wrong, so I'm probably not the best person to decide. But Setsuna and Demyx are either as dumb as they act, or they're being really loud as a cover. I think people expect wolves not to be very active, but I think that's crap.

On the other hand, Itachi never really had to do much against the other team, right? No one asked them a lot of questions. That makes it hard to tell if he would give anything away.

[bluefalconed]

From what I remember of the last game, Demyx is acting the same, though I do not know how normal this is for him.

And I agree, I was not here at all yesterday, so seeing so little attention paid to them? Not helpful at all.

[forthehoard]

Yeah, I don't really know anyone. That's the trouble.

[bluefalconed]

So we have the same problem.

((crap pretend I can brain and forget that question sob))

[forthehoard]

Yep. I'm talking to some other teams that are looking at you guys, though. Do you have any response?

[bluefalconed]

Can I hear their reasons?

[forthehoard]

Probably.



Oh! From me. Oh. Okay. I just want to say that I'm not sure yet, you know? I haven't made up my mind. But I think what they were saying was that your partner is kind of suspicious and you haven't been around a lot.

[velocivector]

Oh?

[forthehoard]

Don't shoot the messenger.

[bluefalconed]

I've had unexpected business that has taken me away longer than I intended, but do plan on being here more now. As for my partner, from what I have seen, he is asking questions and making statements that are smart, thought out, and follow the same line of thought. That seems to draw suspicion.

[forthehoard]

Yeah, I don't know. I just thought I'd mention it.

[velocivector]

I'm not "shooting the messenger". I'm curious on the reasons they have.

[bluefalconed]

It does help slightly.

[forthehoard]

Really? 'Cause you looked kind of pissed and I don't have any more information than that.

[velocivector]

[laughs]

Something like that wouldn't piss me off. I'm in a clue that's got one wolf and one sheep left. Of course people are gonna suspect me.

But if you're certain that's all you got, there's not much I can do about it here, right?

[forthehoard]

Right. Well, I haven't made up my mind yet, and the guys you're pitted up against, they're kind of dumb. So you could always try to convince me.

[forthehoard]

Do you think you'd have a good chance if your round went up?

[velocivector]

I can't disagree that they're kind of dumb.

But where to start... you looking more for why them or why not us?

[forthehoard]

Most people fall into the same old logic when they're defending themselves, but why not? Why not you?

[bluefalconed]

At the moment, I believe it to be possible, but anything can happen between now and then.

[velocivector]

All right, let's see... I've been making an effort to help out with the clues. Granted, anyone can do that regardless of role, but regarding Hatter's mix-up the moment I saw it I made certain to immediately ask him for the correct combination of names. Was it me and Malik? Was it Black*Star and whatshisface? The sooner that got clarified, the better for everyone. It may not be that strong of an argument, but the fact that I was quick on it despite it being a clue that might end up naming my team when the whole flock was pressed for time should at least count for something.

I was the only one to vote on Takaya in suspicion. My reason was that obviously I'm not going to vote on myself, and I didn't see any good reason to vote on Ash and Hisoka. Nearly all the votes on them landed after I voted on Takaya, which made me even more wary that they were being scapegoated. In ousting one of Takaya's main arguments for why it wasn't me was Hatter's mixup, yet the guy didn't even get the point I'd been trying to make. He claimed that Hatter ought to know who his wolves are. It seemed like too much of a stretch and a dumb move, whereas Ash seemed like a frustrated sheep who made some sloppy moves. The only part that bothered me was whether the guy's lack of voting was him being a sloppy sheep. That's something I've asked Hiro, Itachi, Demyx and Setsuna about, in public and private. And as I said to Hiro privately, "Hisoka's a creepy fuck, but if he turned out to be a sheep it'd annoy me to have voted on him and fallen for such an easy ploy this early on."

Sensing a repeat last night with all the votes on Hiro, I seriously didn't want to do the same thing in suspicion. I'm pretty sure I was the second vote and it was on Demyx and Setsuna - because I didn't think it was Itachi. All the votes on the others piled up after that, so it's like my vote had no effect on the outcome. But I ended up voting for Hiro in ousting since Itachi's comments had made sense to me. I regret that now, but my one vote wouldn't have made much difference then. I'd voted fourth, when there were already two votes on Hiro and one on Itachi - it could have gone either way after that, but almost everyone piled on Hiro.

The last thing I want to bring up is the voting order for the first night:

[info]nocturnemission -- Tachibana & Takaya
[info]asterisking -- Tachibana & Takaya
[info]healingcock -- Hisoka & Ash
[info]notmakingout -- Hisoka & Ash
[info]bronevolence -- Hisoka & Ash
[info]stolengood -- Hisoka & Ash
[info]nooohandouts -- Tachibana & Takaya
[info]velocivector -- Tachibana & Takaya
[info]necessaryevil -- Hisoka & Ash

Hisoka & Ash
5 (55.6%)

Tachibana & Takaya
4 (44.4%)

My vote on Takaya had brought the poll to a tie, and was only broken by a final last minute vote by Itachi. Placing a vote on Takaya at that point - to create a tie, no less- seems a little risky for a wolf. But hey, this is only my second game, maybe I'm missing something.

[forthehoard]

...

...

Okay.

But I gotta say, it wouldn't be a risk if both of the people up for ousting were sheep. If you're a wolf, what do you care if it's a tie?

WOW THAT WAS ONE HECK OF A BRAINFART

[velocivector]

. . . Great job, self. Next time remember to double-check things completely.

Yeah, you're right. I screwed up on that detail. It would have make a lot more sense if someone else were the third team, so scratch that. I still think it's worth bringing up that I voted for the same guy that two confirmed sheep voted for - Hiro and Ankh both voted for Takaya. The first night's pretty murky, but given that at that point in time a lot of people could guess Hisoka might be scapegoated, I still think there's some merit there.

Re: WOW THAT WAS ONE HECK OF A BRAINFART

[forthehoard]

Maybe, but them being confirmed sheep doesn't automatically mean they know how to pick the right guys.

It's a lot of information, though. I'll have to think about it.

[velocivector]

I know. I figured I'm mention it anyway since the wolves would have no way of knowing that those particular guys would end up being confirmed as sheep later on. After all, these ones weren't eaten.

Any more questions, ask them whenever.

[forthehoard]

I'll try to think of any if they come up.